tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-749955731953911627.post6594504709096642634..comments2023-11-02T04:53:05.386-05:00Comments on kc bob: Will Our Pets go to Heaven?kc bobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17440862813109808755noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-749955731953911627.post-51504511301220661322012-07-14T16:46:37.413-05:002012-07-14T16:46:37.413-05:00Since I believe that God will restore his creation...Since I believe that God will restore his creation to what it was in the beginning, with a new heaven and earth, I believe there will be animals there. Whether they will be our pets is open to speculation. I think in the new creation God just may let us enjoy the animals that brought us joy in this life.Fred Shopehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05993039629949819266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-749955731953911627.post-42318563959739782912012-07-14T09:51:04.699-05:002012-07-14T09:51:04.699-05:00I love the diversity of thought here! Thanks every...I love the diversity of thought here! Thanks everyone for weighing in! I continue to see the grays in things like this as I read your thoughts.<br /><br />The issue for me is the one that I opened the post with - I see no evidence that animals possess a spirit that survives death.kc bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17440862813109808755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-749955731953911627.post-35711232279773894282012-07-13T21:59:14.307-05:002012-07-13T21:59:14.307-05:00@ Keith...........That's exactly how I read it...@ Keith...........That's exactly how I read it too, that the animals that have taken the life of a human being will be judged. Just how our Father will judge such cases is beyond my understanding.<br /><br />Do I believe our pets go to Heaven, Bob? Yes! I believe this because Jesus is busy making all things new and that surely includes our relationships with our fellow creatures. I don't think we have any idea how much damage was done to our world and perhaps the entire universe due to the Fall. Plainly our relationship with animals changed when death came into our world through disobedience. Because of the Fall, we've brought death to the animals and they sometimes bring death to us. Sin destroyed the hedge that kept us safe from their fangs and them from our weapons. It makes me weep to think of it, but I have hope in God's Mercy and the promise of Him making all things new.crownringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18091550580924650465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-749955731953911627.post-3175162461567118092012-07-13T20:38:36.783-05:002012-07-13T20:38:36.783-05:00It just says God will require an accounting from e...It just says God will require an accounting from every man or beast that takes the life of a man. It is speculation that the judgment of beasts will take place at the same time as the judgment of men ... but it seems a possibility. If there is judgment for beasts, what purpose would it serve if there is no punishment or reward for them?Keith Brentonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08370891993969932472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-749955731953911627.post-69045374831292741602012-07-13T18:26:35.355-05:002012-07-13T18:26:35.355-05:00Most likely no pets in heaven BUT I still like to ...Most likely no pets in heaven BUT I still like to speculate and hope that some pets will be in heaven for a similar reason as your pastor's: :-)<br /><br />"My thinking on this question is that it is possible that God raises up those animals that had special meaning in our lives, and that perhaps his resurrection of these creatures is part of the gift that God gives us in heaven."Paul Longhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01090793506050422565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-749955731953911627.post-30517881660338677912012-07-13T11:04:18.949-05:002012-07-13T11:04:18.949-05:00Pets or animals for that matter do not go to heave...Pets or animals for that matter do not go to heaven. The were not created with an eternal spirit. There does not seem to evidence from Scripture that there are animals in heaven in the past or at this time.<br /><br />The problem comes in to play when one confuses "heaven" with the eternal kingdom that will be established on the earth during the Millenial period. Christ will establish His kingdom on this earth where animals exist, i. e. sheep, lambs, spiders, lions mentioned in Scripture in reference to the Kingdom.<br /><br />More than likely when God destroys both heaven and earth and recreates them, He will create earth in the form that it was originally created prior to the fall, which of course, we know contained animals. Animals will probably exist in this created state for eternity.<br /><br />Yes, I know that Christ returns to this earth on a white horse. I find no reference to a stable in heaven at this time. It is possible that Christ "creates this horse" instantly in order to ride it to earth with his armies. <br /><br />The Scripture is silent in regards to this. We must be careful when we indulge in "speculation." Most of the time, speculation is not in line with scripture.<br /><br />No doubt animals were created to show forth, or to magnify, or to display the character and nature of God. Although suffering under the curse, with no depraved nature, they do exactly what God created them to do far better than man at this point in time.<br /><br />God truly loves and cares for His creation, He provides for them everything they need. The scripture is replete with references to God's care for them. There is no need for them in heaven. There angels do the perfect bidding of God in constant worship and praise.<br /><br />The above reference is apparently ripped out of context and offered as some type of "proof" that we should not eat animals. If that is the case (if it isn't, I apologize)read it carefully - it is not eating of the animal that brings judgment, it is eating the blood of the animal. Read the encounter of Peter at Cornelius's house in Casearea, God gave all food for man to eat. No food is unclean. He gave animals to man to eat after the fall by the way also.Gregg Metcalfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16413691313803396844noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-749955731953911627.post-86816536273741534522012-07-13T09:34:49.316-05:002012-07-13T09:34:49.316-05:00But you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is...But you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood. And for your lifeblood I will require a reckoning: from every beast I will require it and from man. From his fellow man I will require a reckoning for the life of man. (Genesis 9:4-5 ESV)<br /><br />God will judge animals (beasts) for eating other animals (beasts)? Am I missing something Keith?kc bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17440862813109808755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-749955731953911627.post-72955906869121386532012-07-13T09:24:59.604-05:002012-07-13T09:24:59.604-05:00Genesis 9:4-5.Genesis 9:4-5.Keith Brentonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08370891993969932472noreply@blogger.com