tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-749955731953911627.post513498911755043382..comments2023-11-02T04:53:05.386-05:00Comments on kc bob: Atheists, Agnostics and Good Workskc bobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17440862813109808755noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-749955731953911627.post-87303214360708729782013-05-24T08:12:36.946-05:002013-05-24T08:12:36.946-05:00Having attended a RC church for a few years I woul...Having attended a RC church for a few years I would love for them to loosen up a bit Kevin. Got tired of having my toes stepped on while the faithful took communion. Yet I doubt that even this Pope will ever extend meaningful signs of redemption to include nonRC believers much less nonbelievers.<br /><br />That said, I agree with you that his statements were vague and inflammatory. Also agree with your last two sentences.kc bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17440862813109808755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-749955731953911627.post-48322102966322006732013-05-23T20:24:44.315-05:002013-05-23T20:24:44.315-05:00Here's someone who agrees with you, Bob.
htt...Here's someone who agrees with you, Bob. <br /><br />http://www.patheos.com/blogs/thecrescat/2013/05/what-did-this-pope-really-say-are-atheists-redeemed-by-good-works.html<br /><br />I find it fascinating that the author cannot make the desired point by quoting the Pope himself, but needs to quote a father who happens to believe traditional dogma. That father unwraps the Pope's statements in a wholly self-satisfying way. The author even goes so far as to wish for the return of Ratzinger. I expect that will become a theme among a large portion of the church if Francis keeps saying things as vague and inflammatory as this statement. I would not be surprised to see the smoldering signs of schism in Catholicism break into open flame, and soon, under this pope's leadership. <br /><br />As for the statement itself, take out the stuff about redemption and I'm OK with it. Meeting at the neutral ground of doing good is a fine answer. Kevin Knoxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16788817477327510023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-749955731953911627.post-16497648962289347752013-05-23T11:38:58.365-05:002013-05-23T11:38:58.365-05:00I read that too Jason. I think that some could rea...I read that too Jason. I think that some could read his statement ...<br /><br /><i>“The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us, with the Blood of Christ: all of us, not just Catholics. Everyone! ‘Father, the atheists?’ Even the atheists. Everyone!”</i><br /><br />... and come away thinking that he was endorsing some sort of Roman Catholic Universalism. I did not see it that way as RC theology is not consistent with that view but can understand why some would take his words that way.kc bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17440862813109808755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-749955731953911627.post-34124082853495476932013-05-23T11:33:46.565-05:002013-05-23T11:33:46.565-05:00Love that perspective Ma!Love that perspective Ma!kc bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17440862813109808755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-749955731953911627.post-27114487223504149432013-05-23T11:33:23.194-05:002013-05-23T11:33:23.194-05:00Thanks Denise!Thanks Denise!kc bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17440862813109808755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-749955731953911627.post-58806595874023588982013-05-23T11:04:28.360-05:002013-05-23T11:04:28.360-05:00On Huffington Post, it made this sound more like P...On Huffington Post, it made this sound more like Pope Francis was leaning toward a type of universalism. What do you make of that? If what you're saying here is all that he means, I'm on board. Not so much if the HuffPo is accurate.Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18363518142334125056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-749955731953911627.post-82595755867874297672013-05-23T11:03:46.600-05:002013-05-23T11:03:46.600-05:00I like this, too. It reminds me of what Jesus says...I like this, too. It reminds me of what Jesus says about the sheep and goats. Some of the ones who didn't even know they were serving God were included in the Kingdom. <br /><br />Alicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00380432930727921469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-749955731953911627.post-31863163747512566622013-05-23T11:03:15.174-05:002013-05-23T11:03:15.174-05:00Amen, totally agree with you.Amen, totally agree with you.Denisehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09275456448997619944noreply@blogger.com